[Ous-lp-rp13] EDAD 6020, Response to answer Question #1

James Ward gl_jward at seovec.org
Mon Jun 11 23:23:06 EDT 2018


Ian, I completely agree with your outlook on the rational system. The
safety procedures that are put in place for schools are for just as it
says, the safety of both students and staff. The safety procedures in my
district were made and put in to place by a group of individuals who are
very skilled in those areas. It is our responsibility to follow those
procedures so that we can ensure the safety of ourselves as well as our
students.

In contrast to the rational system I love that in the natural system the
teacher is able to personalize their goals, and the methods that they
choose to obtain those goals. Just as you do with your grade band, the
other fourth grade teachers and I also sit down as a grade level at the
beginning of the year and discuss goals and standards, so that we are able
to do our best to ensure that each individual student is making the proper
strides to reach not only the expectations I have in place, but also the
expectations that they themselves have put in place.

After looking at the other two types of systems, I too believe that the
open system was the most difficult to understand. However, after looking at
it closer, I began to understand a little bit more of what it’s about. As a
teacher, I know that I have many roles beyond just being a teacher (ex.
nurse, counselor, parent and the list goes on). However, to the state, the
parents, and some school boards, we are expected to in addition the other
roles mentioned above; take the students (input) teach them the standards
put in place by the state in which they need to know, and send them back
out (output) to go in to the workforce or go to college to receive further
education. So, our ultimate aiming point is to prepare the students for the
world that they will enter after they exit the building from obtaining
their diploma. Acting as a nurse, counselor, and parent are roles that we
need to take so that we can give the public the students and future
citizens they are looking for.

Thank you for sharing!



A series of rational, natural, and open systems must coincide to ensure
that the daily routines of the school day operate properly.  Rational
systems are more structured and formative that are typically put in place
by administration to ensure that proper procedures are followed through. A
rational system that I find important in my school setting is the safety
procedures. Student safety is one of the most important aspects of a school
system and the procedures put in place are to ensure that everybody
involved remains as safe as possible. If a process is not followed through
properly then the entire system could potentially face the consequences.

            A natural system is more of a bottom up approach where as a
rational system is a top down approach. Natural systems provide less
structure and more flexibility for more input from the individual and not
the organization. At the beginning of the school year each department,
subject, meet as a team to discuss their goals for the school year and the
overlapping standards to guarantee that the proper material is covered
throughout the year. The natural system here is that each teacher is to
take what applies from the meeting and is trusted to make sure they cover
the appropriate material and prepare their students for the next year so
that each student is on task and each foundational block prepares them for
the next step in the building process.

            The system that might be the toughest on the school system
would be the open system. This system is where the public has the strongest
input and control over the organization. An example of this that my school
system recently encountered was during the election process where we were
in need of two new school board members. With two members retiring there
was a chance for the public to make a strong change in the individuals that
make some of the largest decisions in the school. This process allows the
public to voice their opinion in the school process by electing the members
that they share the common belief with.
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