[CPN] Can we implement the PhyloCode immediately?

[Michel LAURIN]

Hello all,

I also like very much this proposal. The Companion Volume is  
progressing, but slowly, judging that only one of my dozen proposed  
contributions has made it to acceptance, so far (after eight years!).

On a technical note, however, I think that this would require approval  
of both the CPN (for the modifications of the codes) and the Council  
(as it involves a decision that the ISPN must make). I also know that  
the three editors are rather against this, but this should really be  
decided by our committees, not solely by three editors.

So, one of us who is on the Council should make a former proposal.  
Kevin (Padian), do you want to do it? If not, I can do it.

Cheers,

Michel

Quoting Kevin Padian <kpadian at berkeley.edu>:

> I am in favor of implementing the Code and not waiting for the companion
> volume.  I know that the editors are against this, but there is a lot of
> sentiment out there that the volume is long overdue (*pace* the editors,
> and I understand their position) and some even think the whole project is
> dead.  -- kp
>
>
>
>> The companion volume seems to make this impossible, of course (hence
>> item 6 of the Preamble and Art. 7.1). But how about we
>>
>> 1) make a list of the names that are to be defined in the companion
>> volume,
>> 2) write an Article that says any names on this list as well as
>> homonyms, homodefinitional synonyms and likely heterodefinitional
>> synonyms must not be published before the companion volume (we could
>> even temporarily exclude entire clades from the scope of the Code just
>> to make sure),
>> 3) write another Article that says everything in the Companion Volume
>> has precedence over everything else (which we should do anyway, see
>> below),
>> 4) and then launch the mother*ucking Code already -- if not immediately
>> after we're done discussing the current round of amendments, then on
>> January 1st, 2013?
>>
>> Is RegNum up to that task?
>>
>> What else have I overlooked?
>>
>> ====================
>>
>> ...In any case, I just noticed, Art. 7.1 needs to be reworded, because
>> it declares the companion volume unpublished by definition:
>> "Establishment of a name can only occur after the publication date of
>> Phylonyms: a Companion to the PhyloCode, the starting date for this
>> code." The companion volume can't be published after its own publication
>> date!
>>
>> How about:
>>
>> "Establishment of a name can only occur on or after the publication date
>> of Phylonyms: a Companion to the PhyloCode, the starting date for this
>> code. Names and definitions in Phylonyms that have not been suppressed
>> by the Committee on Phylogenetic Nomenclature (Art. 15) have precedence
>> over all others."
>>
>> The second sentence would still apply if my suggestion above should be
>> accepted. An insertion "(see Art. 7.1)" in Art. 12.2 would also be a
>> good idea in any case.
>>
>> Compare how the ICZN establishes its order of precedence of 1) Svenska
>> Spindlar/Aranei Svecici (a consistently binominal book on Swedish
>> spiders from 1757), 2) Systema Naturae 10th edition (1758), 3)
>> everything else (1758 or later):
>>
>> "Article 3. Starting point. The date 1 January 1758 is arbitrarily fixed
>> in this Code as the date of the starting point of zoological nomenclature.
>> 3.1. Works and names published in 1758. Two works are deemed to have
>> been published on 1 January 1758:
>> - Linnaeus's Systema Naturae, 10th Edition;
>> - Clerck's Aranei Svecici.
>> Names in the latter have precedence over names in the former, but names
>> in any other work published in 1758 are deemed to have been published
>> after the 10th Edition of Systema Naturae.
>> 3.2. Names, acts and information published before 1758. No name or
>> nomenclatural act published before 1 January 1758 enters zoological
>> nomenclature, but information (such as descriptions or illustrations)
>> published before that date may be used. (See Article 8.7.1 for the
>> status of names, acts and information in works published after 1757
>> which have been suppressed for nomenclatural purposes by the Commission)."
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