[CPN] Can we implement the PhyloCode immediately?

[Kevin Padian]

Michel, please go ahead.  I think there will be fair representation of
views on both boards.  -- kp


> Hello all,
>
> I also like very much this proposal. The Companion Volume is
> progressing, but slowly, judging that only one of my dozen proposed
> contributions has made it to acceptance, so far (after eight years!).
>
> On a technical note, however, I think that this would require approval
> of both the CPN (for the modifications of the codes) and the Council
> (as it involves a decision that the ISPN must make). I also know that
> the three editors are rather against this, but this should really be
> decided by our committees, not solely by three editors.
>
> So, one of us who is on the Council should make a former proposal.
> Kevin (Padian), do you want to do it? If not, I can do it.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michel
>
> Quoting Kevin Padian <kpadian at berkeley.edu>:
>
>> I am in favor of implementing the Code and not waiting for the companion
>> volume.  I know that the editors are against this, but there is a lot of
>> sentiment out there that the volume is long overdue (*pace* the editors,
>> and I understand their position) and some even think the whole project
>> is
>> dead.  -- kp
>>
>>
>>
>>> The companion volume seems to make this impossible, of course (hence
>>> item 6 of the Preamble and Art. 7.1). But how about we
>>>
>>> 1) make a list of the names that are to be defined in the companion
>>> volume,
>>> 2) write an Article that says any names on this list as well as
>>> homonyms, homodefinitional synonyms and likely heterodefinitional
>>> synonyms must not be published before the companion volume (we could
>>> even temporarily exclude entire clades from the scope of the Code just
>>> to make sure),
>>> 3) write another Article that says everything in the Companion Volume
>>> has precedence over everything else (which we should do anyway, see
>>> below),
>>> 4) and then launch the mother*ucking Code already -- if not immediately
>>> after we're done discussing the current round of amendments, then on
>>> January 1st, 2013?
>>>
>>> Is RegNum up to that task?
>>>
>>> What else have I overlooked?
>>>
>>> ====================
>>>
>>> ...In any case, I just noticed, Art. 7.1 needs to be reworded, because
>>> it declares the companion volume unpublished by definition:
>>> "Establishment of a name can only occur after the publication date of
>>> Phylonyms: a Companion to the PhyloCode, the starting date for this
>>> code." The companion volume can't be published after its own
>>> publication
>>> date!
>>>
>>> How about:
>>>
>>> "Establishment of a name can only occur on or after the publication
>>> date
>>> of Phylonyms: a Companion to the PhyloCode, the starting date for this
>>> code. Names and definitions in Phylonyms that have not been suppressed
>>> by the Committee on Phylogenetic Nomenclature (Art. 15) have precedence
>>> over all others."
>>>
>>> The second sentence would still apply if my suggestion above should be
>>> accepted. An insertion "(see Art. 7.1)" in Art. 12.2 would also be a
>>> good idea in any case.
>>>
>>> Compare how the ICZN establishes its order of precedence of 1) Svenska
>>> Spindlar/Aranei Svecici (a consistently binominal book on Swedish
>>> spiders from 1757), 2) Systema Naturae 10th edition (1758), 3)
>>> everything else (1758 or later):
>>>
>>> "Article 3. Starting point. The date 1 January 1758 is arbitrarily
>>> fixed
>>> in this Code as the date of the starting point of zoological
>>> nomenclature.
>>> 3.1. Works and names published in 1758. Two works are deemed to have
>>> been published on 1 January 1758:
>>> - Linnaeus's Systema Naturae, 10th Edition;
>>> - Clerck's Aranei Svecici.
>>> Names in the latter have precedence over names in the former, but names
>>> in any other work published in 1758 are deemed to have been published
>>> after the 10th Edition of Systema Naturae.
>>> 3.2. Names, acts and information published before 1758. No name or
>>> nomenclatural act published before 1 January 1758 enters zoological
>>> nomenclature, but information (such as descriptions or illustrations)
>>> published before that date may be used. (See Article 8.7.1 for the
>>> status of names, acts and information in works published after 1757
>>> which have been suppressed for nomenclatural purposes by the
>>> Commission)."
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>>
>> --
>> Kevin Padian
>> Department of Integrative Biology &
>> Museum of Paleontology
>> University of California, Berkeley CA 94720-3140
>> 510-642-7434
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Kevin Padian
Department of Integrative Biology &
Museum of Paleontology
University of California, Berkeley CA 94720-3140
510-642-7434
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/people/padian/home.php