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<div>Hello Phil,</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>There was no discussion of either of the
code modifications I sent you last week, so I am now calling for a
vote. The rationale for the proposed deletion of Note 13.2.2 was
presented in my April 2 message, copied below. The proposed
changes in Rec. 21.3A Example 1 and Note 21.3A.1 were sent to you
April 3 and are attached to this message as well.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Please send your votes to the listserv on
the following questions:</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>1) Should Note 13.2.2 be
deleted?</blockquote>
<div><br>
Yes<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>2) Should the proposed changes
in Rec. 21.3A Example 1 and Note 21.3A.1 be adopted?</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>Yes (assuming "P" stands for "PhyloCode" or
"Phylogenetic" - if I'm confused about this, there may be a
problem)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Jim</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Begin forwarded message:</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><b>From:</b> "Cantino, Philip"
<<a href="mailto:cantino@ohio.edu">cantino@ohio.edu</a>><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><b>Date:</b> April 2, 2013 10:50:10 AM
EDT<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><b>To:</b> Committee on Phylogenetic
Nomenclature <<a
href="mailto:cpn@listserv.ohio.edu">cpn@listserv.ohio.edu</a>><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><b>Subject: Proposed deletion of Note
13.2.2</b><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Dear CPN members,</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>There is still another item of business
that relates to species. This is something we overlooked in our
discussion of the CBM proposal; it concerns Note 13.2.2.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial">Art. 13.2 and Note
13.2.2 currently read:</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial">13.2. Phylogenetic
definitions are considered to be different if either: 1) they are of
the same kind (e.g., node-based, branch-based, etc.) but cite
different specifiers and/or have different restrictions specified in
their qualifying clauses (if any), or 2) they are of a different
kind.</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial">Note 13.2.2. A
species and its type specimen are considered to be the same specifier
(see Note 11.1.1).</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Note 11.1.1, which is referred to in Note
13.2.2, was changed by CPN vote in January (see the attached changes
in Art. 11 that were approved by the CPN). Before these changes
were approved, Note 11.1.1 read as follows (i.e., in
version 4c, currently still online): "When a species is cited as
a specifier, the implicit specifier is the type of that species name
(if a type has been designated) under the appropriate rank-based
code." </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>The concept of an implicit specifier was
removed from the code when the CPN revised Art. 11. With the
changes that have been approved in Art. 11, a definition that uses a
species name as a specifier and another definition that uses the type
specimen of that species would be considered different under Art. 13.2
because they have different specifiers. An indication that they
are truly different is that the consequences of their use differ under
certain situations discussed in new Arts. 11.4 and 11.6.
Kevin and I are therefore recommending that Note 13.2.2 be
deleted.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Let's give ourselves until Monday to
discuss this. If the discussion appears to have ended by then, I
will call for a vote next Tuesday.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Regards,</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Phil</blockquote>
</blockquote>
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<div>James A. Doyle<br>
Department of Evolution and Ecology<br>
University of California<br>
Davis, CA 95616, USA<br>
Telephone: 1-530-752-7591; fax: 1-530-752-1449</div>
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