<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>I vote NO -- retain Rec. 11.4B. I don't have a strong opinion either way, and my default in such situations is to take no action (or, in this case, to vote for taking no action). I don't see the harm in retaining the recommendation, especially if it helps encourage "sensible nomenclatural practice".</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</div><br><div><div>On Sep 24, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Cantino, Philip wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Dear CPN members,</div><div><br></div><div>I am following up on my Sept. 17 message (copied below). Since no one commented further on the question whether Art. 11.4 should be deleted, I am calling for a vote. Please send your vote to this listserv <<a href="mailto:cpn@listserv.ohio.edu">cpn@listserv.ohio.edu</a>> by FRIDAY (Sept. 28).</div><div>YES=Delete Rec. 11.4B</div><div>NO=Retain Rec. 11.4B</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div id="art11.4" class="rule"><div id="rec11.4b" class="recommendation"><div class="para"><b><span class="label">Recommendation 11.4B.</span> If a specimen that is not a type is used as a specifier in the first situation described in Rec. 11.4A, and a species that includes this specimen is subsequently named under the appropriate rank-based code, this specimen should be chosen as the type of the species name. </b></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div id="art11.4" class="rule"><div id="rec11.4b" class="recommendation"><div class="para"><b><br></b></div><div class="para"><br></div><div class="para">Pro and Con arguments, respectively:</div><div class="para"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>1) The PhyloCode should not recommend that specific actions be taken under the rank-based codes. What Rec. 11.4B recommends is simply sensible nomenclatural practice and therefore likely to be done anyway.</div><div>2) Sometimes it's a good idea to spell out the obvious. A Recommendation is just a recommendation; it is by definition unenforceable -- we even say, in item 5 of the Preamble, that other people shouldn't try to enforce Recommendations for us: "editors and reviewers should not require that they be followed".</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
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