<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Judy,</div><div><br></div><div>I'm glad you brought this up because it's a pretty hot topic in our college. We've been talking about alternatives like reassigning course numbers, which makes me wonder if this might be a good topic for a face to face discussion. I know it's late for that for Spring Semester, but maybe over the summer we can address this issue on a larger scale.</div><div><br></div><div>What we are doing for this term is putting together a list from PeopleSoft of all the courses in our college which we sent to the individual departments. They will tell us which courses should be evaluated - including which instructor in the case of multiple instructor courses, and then I will manually make the changes. So my vote, at least for now, is that as many instructors and courses as possible be loaded and I will manually select courses and instructors based on the data from our directors.</div><div><br></div><div>If that makes things difficult for other colleges, however, I am able to modify courses and instructors. I just need to know what you decide to do and when you decide to do it.</div><div><br></div><div>I also wonder if it might be worthwhile to see if we can get some time with Micheal at scan tron to help us out.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Jill <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:28 AM, "Grenert, Joseph" <<a href="mailto:grenert@ohio.edu">grenert@ohio.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I think this is less of an issue in our college, so I’ll let the folks that it really affects talk it out and I’ll abide by whatever the majority decides.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">_____________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jody Grenert<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Communication Director<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ohio University College of Health Sciences and Professions<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">W361 Grover Center<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Athens, OH 45701<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">740.593.1433<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:grenert@ohio.edu">grenert@ohio.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:classclimate-users-bounces@listserv.ohio.edu">classclimate-users-bounces@listserv.ohio.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:classclimate-users-bounces@listserv.ohio.edu">mailto:classclimate-users-bounces@listserv.ohio.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fiocchi, Barbara<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> Users of the Scantron ClassClimate survey tool<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Classclimate-users] Can't generate an eval for course with multiple instructors<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have been working on this,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The School of Theater has many classes with more than one instructor and classes with instructors who teach the lecture part of a class and GA’s who are in charge of a discussion section (and who should also be evaluated)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Here is a 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David<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thar 1390 2683 37 students<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:#1F497D">Barbara Fiocchi<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">School of Theater<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">740-593-4818<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:classclimate-users-bounces@listserv.ohio.edu">classclimate-users-bounces@listserv.ohio.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:classclimate-users-bounces@listserv.ohio.edu">mailto:classclimate-users-bounces@listserv.ohio.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Burke, Judy<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 09, 2013 5:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:classclimate-users@listserv.ohio.edu">classclimate-users@listserv.ohio.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Classclimate-users] Can't generate an eval for course with multiple instructors<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#CC0099"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0">Listserv --</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0">We currently have an issue in Class Climate that requires resolution, and it merits a discussion for OIT to programmatically address the problem. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0">At OU – and within PeopleSoft, a course can have multiple instructors of record. In some cases, there is actually more than one instructor who teaches the class that semester – or the ‘instructors’ may be professors who actually <u>never</u> teach the class during the semester – or the ‘instructor’ may actually be an administrator (e.g. in eLearning, nursing courses) who should not be evaluated. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0">Class Climate users are unable to generate an evaluation for some course instructors because we load (from PeopleSoft) only one instructor per course – the employee with the first (lowest) EMPL ID in the system is chosen by default. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0">We need to determine the best/most appropriate method of <u>choosing and loading</u> this information into Class Climate OR an alternative solution for users who want to create an evaluation for an instructor who does not appear.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0">Possible solutions:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0"> Currently, the administrator for the sub-unit has the ability to manually change the instructor within Class climate. We can leave the pull from PeopleSoft and the load to Class Climate as they are, and the admin for the sub-unit could change the instructor for these classes to the actual instructor for the semester at the beginning of each semester. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0"> We could load ALL instructors for each class into class Climate from PeopleSoft instead of just the first one.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0">Questions:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0">How would the sub-unit admin be advised of when – and who - to change? </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0">Can a Class Climate user <u>add </u> an instructor to a class when there are actually multiple instructors for the semester?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0">If there are multiple instructors for a class, will they all appear in Class Climate? </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0">Can the Class Climate users choose one instructor from multiple instructors to evaluate?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">5)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0">If there are multiple instructors teaching the course for the semester, should <u>all</u> of them be evaluated?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">6)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0">Are there consistent rules for any of these across colleges, etc? </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">7)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0070C0">Is there a way to determine how many courses this issue effects?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#CC0099"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#CC0099"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#CC0099">As a starting point, we should probably make a determination about the number of courses which are affected by this issue. Can anyone give us an idea what this number is?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#CC0099"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#CC0099"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#CC0099">Thanks for your input!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#CC0099"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#CC0099">Judy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#CC0099"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#CC0099"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#CC0099"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#D60093">Judith (Judy) Burke<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#D60093">Ohio Information Technology<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#D60093">385 WUSOC<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#D60093">Athens, OH 45710<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#D60093">740-593-1029<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Classclimate-users mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Classclimate-users@listserv.ohio.edu">Classclimate-users@listserv.ohio.edu</a></span><br><span><a href="http://listserv.ohio.edu/mailman/listinfo/classclimate-users">http://listserv.ohio.edu/mailman/listinfo/classclimate-users</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>